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Friday, March 30, 2007

Telling It Like It Is

Nitrozac and Snaggy tell it like it is...Adobe Edition.

Posted by: MIKE JOHNSTON with thanks to David E.


Blogger Bruce McL said...

When you buy out your competition then you can price your products however you want. This is why Adobe bought Macromedia.

4:36 PM  
Blogger Paul Mc Cann said...

And they continue their predatory pricing. $649 in USofA and $954 plus taxes (equivalent) in U.K.

5:10 PM  
Blogger Max said...

Do all photographers look like that?

8:34 PM  
Blogger Marty said...

If its not worth the price, don't buy it. I don't like the price, but I love the product, especially CS3. I hope this version will keep me happy for a couple of years... at which point I will have forgotten the price.

8:43 PM  
Blogger Dierk Haasis said...

To Marty, 'If it's not worth the price, don't buy it.':

How come Adobe CS3 [particularly researched: Design Premium] is worth just a third in the USA of what it is worth in Germany, Spain or many other places in Europe?

Value of a product - already a very hard to define variable since it is mostly about personal preference and taste - has usually no correlation to price. In this case we can even see it written on the wall [sorry for the biblical reference]: American CS3 is not a valuable or worthy as European.

Or what?

3:01 AM  
Blogger chuk said...

I agree with marty, there are cheaper/free alternatives. Maybe they arent as fully featured, but if you were using all the features in Photoshop CS3.. I doubt you would complain about the price.

3:46 AM  
Blogger Kevin said...

"Do all photographers look like that?"

Only the ones who use computers instead of film! :-)

6:20 AM  
Blogger Randomrubble said...

It's obvious that when they bought Macromedia they took some of the pricing and upgrade ideas from the macromedia book of fleecing customers. They'll probably start a 3 year cycle of introducing and then dropping 3d packages soon as well. (Photosop extended anyone?)

6:48 AM  
Blogger david vatovec said...

If the product is used for 1 image a week and it lasts 2 years (not much but let's make it 2). Than You have 104 (52 weeks x2) final pictures.
That's 700USD/104 = 6,40 USD per image.
I think if You're a working professional it is not such a problem to include this ammount in the final picture price.
So for a working pro it is not over estimated, for the others there are other options out there.
But the comic is funny!

8:00 AM  
Blogger doonster said...

david v wrote: That's 700USD/104 = 6,40 USD per image.
I think if You're a working professional it is not such a problem to include this ammount in the final picture price.

If the economics start to go like that, film (in any size you like) will start to be cheaper than digital.

8:44 AM  
Blogger Paul Mc Cann said...

I think some are missing the point I was trying to make. I am not concerned about value for money or any other parameter but mereley with the concept of charging upwards of 45% more for the same product in a different country. Adobe suffer no additional costs so where is their justification.
Piracy cuts both ways it seems

10:15 AM  
Blogger Awake said...

Software comes out in "generations", with some of them "must have" and others pretty much bug fixes with some minor added features. I call the latter "Skip Generations", and CS3 is definitely a "Skip Generation", specially for photographers. It adds very little in terms of functionality.

It seems to me that the main reason that CS3 is being released is to provide a functional version of Photoshop to the growing number of IntelMac users. CS2 is so slow on an IntelMac that it is virtually unusable, and CS3 is the rewrite for Mac that makes it functional again.

It's too bad that Mac users with newer hardware are basically being forced to buy the 'upgrade' in order to just restore the realistic use of the program... there really should be a two tier pricing, with Mac users being given a price break for this basically mandatory upgrade in order to maintain system performance. To IntelMac users, CS3 is like one big bug fix.

The only really nice thing about CS3 is the new RAW developer, the rest is just basically fluff.

My suggestion... if you are a PC user, consider spending the $200 CS2 upgrade cost on Lightroom instead. You get the same superb RAW developer, and maybe soon Adobe will fix the myriad of bugs, workflow issues and glitches that affect the overall program. (I call the current version of Lightroom the 'true' Beta 1) Lightroom 1.1 should be an excellent photographer's tool, and CS2 has more than enough features for any photographic needs that Lightroom does not provide.

12:03 PM  
Blogger Mark Roberts said...

I'm waiting to see if they make the next version of Camera Raw work *only* in CS3 (in other words, incompatible with CS2 and earlier) The trick they pulled when CS2 replaced CS.
Any bets?

3:00 PM  
Blogger fivetonsflax said...

"Predatory pricing" means cheaper, not more expensive. It's done to make competitors go out of business. Like the CS3 prices or not, they're certainly not predatory.

7:56 PM  
Blogger José S said...

If you are a teacher or have kids, just buy the Education/Student version and save big bucks. Not all of us are professional photographers...
Also, non-americans should consider the next vacation in the US of A.

6:03 PM  
Blogger Ron W said...

For those upgrading from Photoshop the upgrade is $199, but since I have Creative Suite I cannot upgrade just Photoshop but the Creative Suite and the upgrade for the cheapest Suite (the Print one) is $399, which is cheaper than upgrading from Photoshop Elements or $599.00

5:21 PM  

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